Request for comment (GStreamer team): release date for GNOME 3.0

[Vincent Untz]

Hi,

The release team is gathering comments from various teams to get a
proper idea of which of March or September 2010 is more appropriate for
the release of GNOME 3.0. The decision for the release date is following
what we set in the 3.0 planning document [1]: we want 3.0 to be out in
2010, but we also want to make sure that 3.0 is rock-solid; your input
will help us take an informed decision.

It'd be great if someone could summarize the status of the work that is
being done in GStreamer at the moment, and how a GNOME 3.0 release in
March or September would work for you. I know that in Gran Canaria, last
summer, the GStreamer hackers discussed releasing GStreamer 1.0 in 2010,
and if we can integrate it in GNOME 3.0, that'd be quite cool!

Thanks,

Vincent

PS: make sure to cc the release team for the reply ;-)

[1] http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/Plan

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[Stefan Sauer]

Vincent Untz schrieb:

> Hi,
>
> The release team is gathering comments from various teams to get a
> proper idea of which of March or September 2010 is more appropriate for
> the release of GNOME 3.0. The decision for the release date is following
> what we set in the 3.0 planning document [1]: we want 3.0 to be out in
> 2010, but we also want to make sure that 3.0 is rock-solid; your input
> will help us take an informed decision.
>
> It'd be great if someone could summarize the status of the work that is
> being done in GStreamer at the moment, and how a GNOME 3.0 release in
> March or September would work for you. I know that in Gran Canaria, last
> summer, the GStreamer hackers discussed releasing GStreamer 1.0 in 2010,
> and if we can integrate it in GNOME 3.0, that'd be quite cool!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vincent
>
> PS: make sure to cc the release team for the reply ;-)
>
> [1] http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/Plan
>

Vincent, we're not ignoring you :) We kind of have business as usual in Gst
land. After guadec it became somewhat quiet around the 1.0 discussion. Now we
discuss some more and March seems tough from my point of view. I hope other core
devs reply as well.

Stefan

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[michael smith-6-3]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stefan Kost <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Vincent Untz schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The release team is gathering comments from various teams to get a
>> proper idea of which of March or September 2010 is more appropriate for
>> the release of GNOME 3.0. The decision for the release date is following
>> what we set in the 3.0 planning document [1]: we want 3.0 to be out in
>> 2010, but we also want to make sure that 3.0 is rock-solid; your input
>> will help us take an informed decision.
>>
>> It'd be great if someone could summarize the status of the work that is
>> being done in GStreamer at the moment, and how a GNOME 3.0 release in
>> March or September would work for you. I know that in Gran Canaria, last
>> summer, the GStreamer hackers discussed releasing GStreamer 1.0 in 2010,
>> and if we can integrate it in GNOME 3.0, that'd be quite cool!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>> PS: make sure to cc the release team for the reply ;-)
>>
>> [1] http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/Plan
>>
>
> Vincent, we're not ignoring you :) We kind of have business as usual in Gst
> land. After guadec it became somewhat quiet around the 1.0 discussion. Now we
> discuss some more and March seems tough from my point of view. I hope other core
> devs reply as well.

More than just the timing, I think it's that there's a lack of
consensus in the GStreamer community that there's any reason to move
to 1.0 - whilst we have a list of things we'd change, they're all
relatively minor, as far as I know, and it's a disruptive API change -
that the net benefit would be positive is far from clear.

I think it's very clear that a GNOME 3.0 release in March would not
include a GStreamer 1.0 - but that's not a bad thing, we don't think
there's anything too major wrong with the 0.10 design. September might
be possible if there was consensus over that being a worthwhile goal
to aim for - however, GStreamer is very widely used _outside_ the
GNOME platform/desktop, so we wouldn't want to do so solely to be part
of the GNOME 3.0 plan.

Mike

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[Andre Klapper]

Am Donnerstag, den 19.11.2009, 13:26 -0800 schrieb Michael Smith:

> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Stefan Kost <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Vincent, we're not ignoring you :) We kind of have business as usual in Gst
> > land. After guadec it became somewhat quiet around the 1.0 discussion. Now we
> > discuss some more and March seems tough from my point of view. I hope other core
> > devs reply as well.
>
> More than just the timing, I think it's that there's a lack of
> consensus in the GStreamer community that there's any reason to move
> to 1.0 - whilst we have a list of things we'd change, they're all
> relatively minor, as far as I know, and it's a disruptive API change -
> that the net benefit would be positive is far from clear.
>
> I think it's very clear that a GNOME 3.0 release in March would not
> include a GStreamer 1.0 - but that's not a bad thing, we don't think
> there's anything too major wrong with the 0.10 design. September might
> be possible if there was consensus over that being a worthwhile goal
> to aim for - however, GStreamer is very widely used _outside_ the
> GNOME platform/desktop, so we wouldn't want to do so solely to be part
> of the GNOME 3.0 plan.

It was decided already that GNOME 3.0 will take place in September 2010
and that there will be a GNOME 2.30 release in March 2010:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2009-November/msg00001.html

However, your feedback is definitely appreciated and helpful to get the
broader view, also with regard to marketing.

andre
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