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Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Hi there,

I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the media. Using VLC as a client works ok.

I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching Gstreamer:

Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
New clock: GstSystemClock
ERROR: desde el elemento /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
Información adicional de depurado:
gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain (): /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)


I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could anybody tell me where can I find it?

By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin using it. Any help would be much appreciated.


Thank you,
Javi


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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Hi,

I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.

Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers) but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works smoothly).

As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10 version I've just installed.


Thank you all,
Javi


2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
Hi there,

I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the media. Using VLC as a client works ok.

I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching Gstreamer:

Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
New clock: GstSystemClock
ERROR: desde el elemento /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
Información adicional de depurado:
gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain (): /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)


I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could anybody tell me where can I find it?

By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin using it. Any help would be much appreciated.


Thank you,
Javi



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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Wim Taymans
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't
> know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>
> Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers)
> but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I
> have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are
> ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I
> don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
> playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
> smoothly).
>
> As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from
> 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these
> problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to
> help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
> know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
> version I've just installed.
>

The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw up
the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.

Wim

>
> Thank you all,
> Javi
>
>
> 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>         Hi there,
>        
>         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some
>         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10
>         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the
>         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>        
>         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and
>         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching
>         Gstreamer:
>        
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
>         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>         New clock: GstSystemClock
>         ERROR: desde el
>         elemento /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>         Información adicional de depurado:
>         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>         (): /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>        
>        
>         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case
>         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>        
>         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>        
>        
>         Thank you,
>         Javi
>        
>
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Thanks for your answer, Wim.

So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not working properly?


Regards,
Javi

2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't
> know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>
> Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers)
> but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I
> have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are
> ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I
> don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
> playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
> smoothly).
>
> As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from
> 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these
> problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to
> help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
> know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
> version I've just installed.
>

The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw up
the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.

Wim
>
> Thank you all,
> Javi
>
>
> 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>         Hi there,
>
>         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some
>         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10
>         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the
>         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>
>         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and
>         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching
>         Gstreamer:
>
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
>         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>         New clock: GstSystemClock
>         ERROR: desde el
>         elemento /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>         Información adicional de depurado:
>         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>         (): /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>
>
>         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case
>         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>
>         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>
>         Thank you,
>         Javi
>
>
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have updated ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have also uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no positive results.

On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is played back smoothly, as local files do.

Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming contents before and now I get choppy playback?


Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
Javi


2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
Thanks for your answer, Wim.

So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not working properly?


Regards,
Javi

2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>

On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't
> know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>
> Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers)
> but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I
> have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are
> ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I
> don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
> playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
> smoothly).
>
> As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from
> 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these
> problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to
> help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
> know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
> version I've just installed.
>

The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw up
the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.

Wim
>
> Thank you all,
> Javi
>
>
> 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>         Hi there,
>
>         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some
>         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10
>         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the
>         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>
>         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and
>         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching
>         Gstreamer:
>
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
>         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>         New clock: GstSystemClock
>         ERROR: desde el
>         elemento /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>         Información adicional de depurado:
>         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>         (): /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>
>
>         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case
>         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>
>         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>
>         Thank you,
>         Javi
>
>
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Hi,

I solved it. I have installed the "bad" plugins compilation and now I get smooth RTP/MPEG-TS playback. I suppose it is because the mplex element.

Regards,
Javi

2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have updated ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have also uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no positive results.

On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is played back smoothly, as local files do.

Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming contents before and now I get choppy playback?


Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
Javi


2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>

Thanks for your answer, Wim.

So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not working properly?


Regards,
Javi

2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>

On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't
> know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>
> Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers)
> but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I
> have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are
> ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I
> don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
> playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
> smoothly).
>
> As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from
> 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these
> problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to
> help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
> know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
> version I've just installed.
>

The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw up
the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.

Wim
>
> Thank you all,
> Javi
>
>
> 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>         Hi there,
>
>         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some
>         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10
>         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the
>         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>
>         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and
>         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching
>         Gstreamer:
>
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
>         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>         New clock: GstSystemClock
>         ERROR: desde el
>         elemento /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>         Información adicional de depurado:
>         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>         (): /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>
>
>         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case
>         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>
>         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>
>         Thank you,
>         Javi
>
>
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Zaheer Merali-2
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I solved it. I have installed the "bad" plugins compilation and now I get
> smooth RTP/MPEG-TS playback. I suppose it is because the mplex element.
>
> Regards,
> Javi

It was probably one of the mpeg demuxers mpegpsdemux or mpegtsdemux
inside gst-plugins-bad that solved your problem.

Zaheer

>
> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have updated
>> ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have also
>> uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no positive
>> results.
>>
>> On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is played
>> back smoothly, as local files do.
>>
>> Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming
>> contents before and now I get choppy playback?
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
>> Javi
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answer, Wim.
>>>
>>> So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not
>>> working properly?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Javi
>>>
>>> 2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't
>>>> > know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>>>> >
>>>> > Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers)
>>>> > but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I
>>>> > have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are
>>>> > ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I
>>>> > don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
>>>> > playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
>>>> > smoothly).
>>>> >
>>>> > As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from
>>>> > 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these
>>>> > problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to
>>>> > help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
>>>> > know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
>>>> > version I've just installed.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw up
>>>> the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.
>>>>
>>>> Wim
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you all,
>>>> > Javi
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>>>> >         Hi there,
>>>> >
>>>> >         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some
>>>> >         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>>>> >         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>>>> >         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10
>>>> >         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the
>>>> >         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>>>> >
>>>> >         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and
>>>> >         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching
>>>> >         Gstreamer:
>>>> >
>>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>>>> >         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
>>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>>>> >         New clock: GstSystemClock
>>>> >         ERROR: desde el
>>>> >         elemento
>>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>>>> > Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at
>>>> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>>>> >         Información adicional de depurado:
>>>> >         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>>>> >         ():
>>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>>>> >         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>>>> >         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>>>> >         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case
>>>> >         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>>>> >         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>>>> >
>>>> >         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>>>> >         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>>>> >         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >         Thank you,
>>>> >         Javi
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> > Francisco, CA
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>>>> > Enterprise
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Thanks for your answer, Zaheer.

How can I know which plugins/elements are installed in my system? I know I've installed the core-, base-, ugly- and bad-plugins packages, but how can I know which elements they provide? I have looked at the GStreamer 0.10 Plugins reference manual but I don't see neither mpegpsdemux nor mpegtsdemux in the bad plugins reference manual.

I would like to know how to find this kind of information as it may be useful for my future development tasks (I need to start with the basic ideas...=) )


Thank you all,
Javi


2009/3/6 Zaheer Merali <[hidden email]>
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I solved it. I have installed the "bad" plugins compilation and now I get
> smooth RTP/MPEG-TS playback. I suppose it is because the mplex element.
>
> Regards,
> Javi

It was probably one of the mpeg demuxers mpegpsdemux or mpegtsdemux
inside gst-plugins-bad that solved your problem.

Zaheer

>
> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have updated
>> ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have also
>> uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no positive
>> results.
>>
>> On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is played
>> back smoothly, as local files do.
>>
>> Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming
>> contents before and now I get choppy playback?
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
>> Javi
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answer, Wim.
>>>
>>> So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not
>>> working properly?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Javi
>>>
>>> 2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I don't
>>>> > know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>>>> >
>>>> > Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP servers)
>>>> > but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable. I
>>>> > have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers are
>>>> > ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so I
>>>> > don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
>>>> > playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
>>>> > smoothly).
>>>> >
>>>> > As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer from
>>>> > 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with these
>>>> > problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone to
>>>> > help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
>>>> > know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
>>>> > version I've just installed.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw up
>>>> the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.
>>>>
>>>> Wim
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you all,
>>>> > Javi
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>>>> >         Hi there,
>>>> >
>>>> >         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get some
>>>> >         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>>>> >         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>>>> >         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch "gst-launch-0.10
>>>> >         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing the
>>>> >         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>>>> >
>>>> >         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE and
>>>> >         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where launching
>>>> >         Gstreamer:
>>>> >
>>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>>>> >         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ... (PRECACHED)
>>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>>>> >         New clock: GstSystemClock
>>>> >         ERROR: desde el
>>>> >         elemento
>>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>>>> > Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at
>>>> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>>>> >         Información adicional de depurado:
>>>> >         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>>>> >         ():
>>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>>>> >         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>>>> >         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>>>> >         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in case
>>>> >         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>>>> >         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>>>> >
>>>> >         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>>>> >         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>>>> >         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >         Thank you,
>>>> >         Javi
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>>>> > Francisco, CA
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>>>> > Enterprise
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>>>> > participation
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Zaheer Merali-2
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for your answer, Zaheer.
>
> How can I know which plugins/elements are installed in my system? I know
> I've installed the core-, base-, ugly- and bad-plugins packages, but how can
> I know which elements they provide? I have looked at the GStreamer 0.10
> Plugins reference manual but I don't see neither mpegpsdemux nor mpegtsdemux
> in the bad plugins reference manual.

gst-inspect

>
> I would like to know how to find this kind of information as it may be
> useful for my future development tasks (I need to start with the basic
> ideas...=) )
>
>
> Thank you all,
> Javi

Zaheer

>
>
> 2009/3/6 Zaheer Merali <[hidden email]>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I solved it. I have installed the "bad" plugins compilation and now I
>> > get
>> > smooth RTP/MPEG-TS playback. I suppose it is because the mplex element.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Javi
>>
>> It was probably one of the mpeg demuxers mpegpsdemux or mpegtsdemux
>> inside gst-plugins-bad that solved your problem.
>>
>> Zaheer
>>
>> >
>> > 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>
>> >> Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have
>> >> updated
>> >> ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have
>> >> also
>> >> uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no
>> >> positive
>> >> results.
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is
>> >> played
>> >> back smoothly, as local files do.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming
>> >> contents before and now I get choppy playback?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
>> >> Javi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for your answer, Wim.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not
>> >>> working properly?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Javi
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
>> >>>> > Hi,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I
>> >>>> > don't
>> >>>> > know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP
>> >>>> > servers)
>> >>>> > but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable.
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers
>> >>>> > are
>> >>>> > ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
>> >>>> > playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
>> >>>> > smoothly).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer
>> >>>> > from
>> >>>> > 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with
>> >>>> > these
>> >>>> > problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
>> >>>> > know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
>> >>>> > version I've just installed.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wim
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thank you all,
>> >>>> > Javi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>>> >         Hi there,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get
>> >>>> > some
>> >>>> >         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>> >>>> >         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>> >>>> >         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch
>> >>>> > "gst-launch-0.10
>> >>>> >         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> >         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE
>> >>>> > and
>> >>>> >         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where
>> >>>> > launching
>> >>>> >         Gstreamer:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>> >>>> >         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ...
>> >>>> > (PRECACHED)
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>> >>>> >         New clock: GstSystemClock
>> >>>> >         ERROR: desde el
>> >>>> >         elemento
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>> >>>> > Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug
>> >>>> > at
>> >>>> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>> >>>> >         Información adicional de depurado:
>> >>>> >         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>> >>>> >         ():
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>> >>>> >         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>> >>>> >         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>> >>>> >         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in
>> >>>> > case
>> >>>> >         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>> >>>> >         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>> >>>> >         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>> >>>> >         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         Thank you,
>> >>>> >         Javi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>> >>>> > Francisco, CA
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>> >>>> > Enterprise
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
I knew I could use gst-inspect to get information about specific elements/plugins but I didn't know that it lists everything if no arguments are provided. Thank you.

Anyway, I can't find any mpegpsdemux nor mpegtsdemux elements in the list but I see a gstrtpssrcdemux from the bad plugins which may be related to my issue.

Regards,
Javi

2009/3/6 Zaheer Merali <[hidden email]>
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for your answer, Zaheer.
>
> How can I know which plugins/elements are installed in my system? I know
> I've installed the core-, base-, ugly- and bad-plugins packages, but how can
> I know which elements they provide? I have looked at the GStreamer 0.10
> Plugins reference manual but I don't see neither mpegpsdemux nor mpegtsdemux
> in the bad plugins reference manual.

gst-inspect

>
> I would like to know how to find this kind of information as it may be
> useful for my future development tasks (I need to start with the basic
> ideas...=) )
>
>
> Thank you all,
> Javi

Zaheer
>
>
> 2009/3/6 Zaheer Merali <[hidden email]>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I solved it. I have installed the "bad" plugins compilation and now I
>> > get
>> > smooth RTP/MPEG-TS playback. I suppose it is because the mplex element.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Javi
>>
>> It was probably one of the mpeg demuxers mpegpsdemux or mpegtsdemux
>> inside gst-plugins-bad that solved your problem.
>>
>> Zaheer
>>
>> >
>> > 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>
>> >> Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have
>> >> updated
>> >> ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have
>> >> also
>> >> uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no
>> >> positive
>> >> results.
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is
>> >> played
>> >> back smoothly, as local files do.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming
>> >> contents before and now I get choppy playback?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
>> >> Javi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for your answer, Wim.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not
>> >>> working properly?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Javi
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
>> >>>> > Hi,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I
>> >>>> > don't
>> >>>> > know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP
>> >>>> > servers)
>> >>>> > but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable.
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers
>> >>>> > are
>> >>>> > ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
>> >>>> > playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
>> >>>> > smoothly).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer
>> >>>> > from
>> >>>> > 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with
>> >>>> > these
>> >>>> > problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
>> >>>> > know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
>> >>>> > version I've just installed.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wim
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thank you all,
>> >>>> > Javi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>>> >         Hi there,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get
>> >>>> > some
>> >>>> >         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>> >>>> >         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>> >>>> >         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch
>> >>>> > "gst-launch-0.10
>> >>>> >         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> >         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE
>> >>>> > and
>> >>>> >         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where
>> >>>> > launching
>> >>>> >         Gstreamer:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>> >>>> >         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ...
>> >>>> > (PRECACHED)
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>> >>>> >         New clock: GstSystemClock
>> >>>> >         ERROR: desde el
>> >>>> >         elemento
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>> >>>> > Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug
>> >>>> > at
>> >>>> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>> >>>> >         Información adicional de depurado:
>> >>>> >         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>> >>>> >         ():
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>> >>>> >         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>> >>>> >         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>> >>>> >         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in
>> >>>> > case
>> >>>> >         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>> >>>> >         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>> >>>> >         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>> >>>> >         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         Thank you,
>> >>>> >         Javi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
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>> >>>> > Francisco, CA
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Re: State change issues when asking for a RTSP stream with VLC

Javier Gálvez Guerrero
Hi again,

When receiving a RTP stream configured through a RTSP session I never get any Bus.EOS nor Bus.STATE_CHANGED message when the stream reaches its end.

Is this related with the MPEG demuxers? Is it considered to be solved?


Regards,
Javi


2009/3/6 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
I knew I could use gst-inspect to get information about specific elements/plugins but I didn't know that it lists everything if no arguments are provided. Thank you.

Anyway, I can't find any mpegpsdemux nor mpegtsdemux elements in the list but I see a gstrtpssrcdemux from the bad plugins which may be related to my issue.

Regards,
Javi


2009/3/6 Zaheer Merali <[hidden email]>
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for your answer, Zaheer.
>
> How can I know which plugins/elements are installed in my system? I know
> I've installed the core-, base-, ugly- and bad-plugins packages, but how can
> I know which elements they provide? I have looked at the GStreamer 0.10
> Plugins reference manual but I don't see neither mpegpsdemux nor mpegtsdemux
> in the bad plugins reference manual.

gst-inspect

>
> I would like to know how to find this kind of information as it may be
> useful for my future development tasks (I need to start with the basic
> ideas...=) )
>
>
> Thank you all,
> Javi

Zaheer
>
>
> 2009/3/6 Zaheer Merali <[hidden email]>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Javier Gálvez Guerrero
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I solved it. I have installed the "bad" plugins compilation and now I
>> > get
>> > smooth RTP/MPEG-TS playback. I suppose it is because the mplex element.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Javi
>>
>> It was probably one of the mpeg demuxers mpegpsdemux or mpegtsdemux
>> inside gst-plugins-bad that solved your problem.
>>
>> Zaheer
>>
>> >
>> > 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>
>> >> Gstreamer MPEG demuxing is in charge of ffmpeg, isn't it? I have
>> >> updated
>> >> ffmpeg to the latest git version but it hasn't solved anything. I have
>> >> also
>> >> uninstalled the fluendo MPEG muxers and demuxers plugins with no
>> >> positive
>> >> results.
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, multicast streaming (not RTSP) MPEG over UDP is
>> >> played
>> >> back smoothly, as local files do.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone any idea about why I could play properly RTSP/RTP streaming
>> >> contents before and now I get choppy playback?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your time and sorry for the inconvenience,
>> >> Javi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/3/5 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for your answer, Wim.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, Gstreamer 0.8 MPEG demuxers worked but those used in 0.10 are not
>> >>> working properly?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Javi
>> >>>
>> >>> 2009/3/5 Wim Taymans <[hidden email]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 10:28 +0100, Javier Gálvez Guerrero wrote:
>> >>>> > Hi,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I managed this issue by installing the UGLY plugins. However, I
>> >>>> > don't
>> >>>> > know if this is the proper way to solve my issue.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Now I can get the RTSP stream (both from VLC and Live555 RTSP
>> >>>> > servers)
>> >>>> > but the video framerate is lower than the original and not stable.
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > have checked that all RTP packets are received (sequence numbers
>> >>>> > are
>> >>>> > ok) and I get neither error nor warning messages from Gstreamer, so
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > don't know what is happening and how I could get a smooth video
>> >>>> > playback in RTSP streaming (the same video played locally works
>> >>>> > smoothly).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > As said before, I have these problems since I updated Gstreamer
>> >>>> > from
>> >>>> > 0.8 to 0.10, so I don't know if there is any related issue with
>> >>>> > these
>> >>>> > problems or if I'm missing something. Anyway, I would like anyone
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > help me getting things working, either downgrading to 0.8 (I don't
>> >>>> > know where to find this version) or managing with the current 0.10
>> >>>> > version I've just installed.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The mpeg demuxers don't support demuxing live streams yet and screw
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> the timestamps, which makes the result rather choppy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wim
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thank you all,
>> >>>> > Javi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > 2009/3/4 Javier Gálvez Guerrero <[hidden email]>
>> >>>> >         Hi there,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I was using the Gstreamer framework (version 0.8) to get
>> >>>> > some
>> >>>> >         tests. I used Gstreamer as client and VLC (0.9.4) as RTSP
>> >>>> >         server and it worked smoothly. The problem has arised when
>> >>>> >         updating Gstreamer to 0.10.21. When I launch
>> >>>> > "gst-launch-0.10
>> >>>> >         playbin uri=rtsp://IP:PORT/content it never starts playing
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> >         media. Using VLC as a client works ok.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I can see with Wireshark the RTSP message exchange (PAUSE
>> >>>> > and
>> >>>> >         then TEARDOWN) and I get these error messages where
>> >>>> > launching
>> >>>> >         Gstreamer:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ... (PAUSED)
>> >>>> >         El flujo es en vivo y no necesita PRECACHEADO ...
>> >>>> > (PRECACHED)
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo para REPRODUCCIÓN ... (PLAY)
>> >>>> >         New clock: GstSystemClock
>> >>>> >         ERROR: desde el
>> >>>> >         elemento
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>> >>>> > Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug
>> >>>> > at
>> >>>> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
>> >>>> >         Información adicional de depurado:
>> >>>> >         gstffmpegdec.c(2339): gst_ffmpegdec_chain
>> >>>> >         ():
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > /GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstDecodeBin:decodebin0/ffdec_mpegvideo:ffdec_mpegvideo0:
>> >>>> >         ffdec_mpegvideo: input format was not set before data start
>> >>>> >         Execution ended after 887032082 ns.
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo el flujo a PAUSADO ...
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a READY...
>> >>>> >         Estableciendo pipeline a NULL...
>> >>>> >         LIBERANDO pipeline ... (FREEING)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         I would like to know how I can solve this issue and, in
>> >>>> > case
>> >>>> >         the only solution is downgrading to gstreamer 0.8, could
>> >>>> >         anybody tell me where can I find it?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         By the way, as you may have noted, I am a newbie in the
>> >>>> >         Gstreamer framework, but I am quite interested in succeedin
>> >>>> >         using it. Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >         Thank you,
>> >>>> >         Javi
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San
>> >>>> > Francisco, CA
>> >>>> > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the
>> >>>> > Enterprise
>> >>>> > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source
>> >>>> > participation
>> >>>> > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source
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