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Miron Kunz
Hi,

I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.

Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:

set VER_GST=0.10.25
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
Farsight2 0.0.16

I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.

Thanks,
Miron

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Re: Theora w/ farsight2

Miron Kunz

Hi,

I updated to Farsight2, 0.0.20
set VER_GST=0.10.29
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.29
set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.22


But I am still getting distorted video when Theora codec is used.

Looks like frames between I-frames are not properly decoded.

Anything I can check?

Thanks,
Mironoz



> Hi,
>
> I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
> The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.
>
> Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:
>
> set VER_GST=0.10.25
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
> Farsight2 0.0.16
>
> I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.
>
> Thanks,
> Miron


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Re: Theora w/ farsight2

Miron Kunz
Hi,

My problem seems to be related to Theora encoder.

With the number of discontinued buffers increasing I am likely to get distorted image on the receiving end:

0:01:55.343750000  4492   00DF2698 DEBUG              theoraenc gsttheoraenc.c:829:theora_enc_is_discontinuous:<theoraen
c4> Incoming TS 0:01:50.345187500 exceeds expected value 0:01:48.955312500 by too much, marking discontinuity

If I increase threshold for late/discontinued buffers - the receiving end shows video w/o artifacts.

I am not sure yet how to interpret the observation because I see discontinued buffers in this pipeline which still produces the fine video:
gst-launch --gst-debug="theoraenc:5" dshowvideosrc!ffmpegcolorspace!theoraenc!theoradec!ffmpegcolorspace!directdrawsink

One more thing - on every discontinued packet, the theora codec is deallocated and reincarnated again by theora_enc_reset(). For performance sake it looks suspicious to me.

Thanks,
Miron


>
> Hi,
>
> I updated to Farsight2, 0.0.20
> set VER_GST=0.10.29
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.29
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.22
>
>
> But I am still getting distorted video when Theora codec is used.
>
> Looks like frames between I-frames are not properly decoded.
>
> Anything I can check?
>
> Thanks,
> Mironoz
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
> > The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.
> >
> > Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:
> >
> > set VER_GST=0.10.25
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
> > Farsight2 0.0.16
> >
> > I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miron
>
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Re: Theora w/ farsight2

Sudarshan Bisht
Hi ,
Use "sync=false"  property with both the sinks at sending and receiving end , and then see the behaviour . 

2010/7/14 Miron Kunz <[hidden email]>
Hi,

My problem seems to be related to Theora encoder.

With the number of discontinued buffers increasing I am likely to get distorted image on the receiving end:

0:01:55.343750000  4492   00DF2698 DEBUG              theoraenc gsttheoraenc.c:829:theora_enc_is_discontinuous:<theoraen
c4> Incoming TS 0:01:50.345187500 exceeds expected value 0:01:48.955312500 by too much, marking discontinuity

If I increase threshold for late/discontinued buffers - the receiving end shows video w/o artifacts.

I am not sure yet how to interpret the observation because I see discontinued buffers in this pipeline which still produces the fine video:
gst-launch --gst-debug="theoraenc:5" dshowvideosrc!ffmpegcolorspace!theoraenc!theoradec!ffmpegcolorspace!directdrawsink

One more thing - on every discontinued packet, the theora codec is deallocated and reincarnated again by theora_enc_reset(). For performance sake it looks suspicious to me.

Thanks,
Miron


>
> Hi,
>
> I updated to Farsight2, 0.0.20
> set VER_GST=0.10.29
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.29
> set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.22
>
>
> But I am still getting distorted video when Theora codec is used.
>

> Looks like frames between I-frames are not properly decoded.
>
> Anything I can check?
>
> Thanks,
> Mironoz
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
> > The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.
> >
> > Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:
> >
> > set VER_GST=0.10.25
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
> > Farsight2 0.0.16
> >
> > I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miron
>
>
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Re: Theora w/ farsight2

Miron Kunz

Hi,
All my video/audio sinks on receiving end have sync=false. The sending part is handled by Farsight2 and it looks like sync=false is set there too.

Thanks,
Mironoz

>
> Hi ,
>
> Use "sync=false" property with both the sinks at sending and receiving end , and then see the behaviour .
>
>
>
> 2010/7/14 Miron Kunz <[hidden email]>
> Hi,
>
> My problem seems to be related to Theora encoder.
>
> With the number of discontinued buffers increasing I am likely to get distorted image on the receiving end:
>
> 0:01:55.343750000 4492 00DF2698 DEBUG theoraenc gsttheoraenc.c:829:theora_enc_is_discontinuous:<theoraen
> c4> Incoming TS 0:01:50.345187500 exceeds expected value 0:01:48.955312500 by too much, marking discontinuity
>
> If I increase threshold for late/discontinued buffers - the receiving end shows video w/o artifacts.
>
> I am not sure yet how to interpret the observation because I see discontinued buffers in this pipeline which still produces the fine video:
> gst-launch --gst-debug="theoraenc:5" dshowvideosrc!ffmpegcolorspace!theoraenc!theoradec!ffmpegcolorspace!directdrawsink
>
> One more thing - on every discontinued packet, the theora codec is deallocated and reincarnated again by theora_enc_reset(). For performance sake it looks suspicious to me.
>
> Thanks,
> Miron
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I updated to Farsight2, 0.0.20
> > set VER_GST=0.10.29
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.29
> > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.22
> >
> >
> > But I am still getting distorted video when Theora codec is used.
> >
> > Looks like frames between I-frames are not properly decoded.
> >
> > Anything I can check?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mironoz
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
> > > The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.
> > >
> > > Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:
> > >
> > > set VER_GST=0.10.25
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
> > > Farsight2 0.0.16
> > >
> > > I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Miron
> >
> >
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Re: Theora w/ farsight2

Miron Kunz
Hi,

So I came to the conclusion that latency caused by encoder and network are destroying my Fs2/Theora video on the receiving end.

With high (for ex 1/15) fps encoder drops many buffers and does not try to lower fps to adjust to CPU capabilities.

Thanks,
Mironoz

>
> Hi,
> All my video/audio sinks on receiving end have sync=false. The sending part is handled by Farsight2 and it looks like sync=false is set there too.
>
> Thanks,
> Mironoz
>
> >
> > Hi ,
> >
> > Use "sync=false" property with both the sinks at sending and receiving end , and then see the behaviour .
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/7/14 Miron Kunz <[hidden email]>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My problem seems to be related to Theora encoder.
> >
> > With the number of discontinued buffers increasing I am likely to get distorted image on the receiving end:
> >
> > 0:01:55.343750000 4492 00DF2698 DEBUG theoraenc gsttheoraenc.c:829:theora_enc_is_discontinuous:<theoraen
> > c4> Incoming TS 0:01:50.345187500 exceeds expected value 0:01:48.955312500 by too much, marking discontinuity
> >
> > If I increase threshold for late/discontinued buffers - the receiving end shows video w/o artifacts.
> >
> > I am not sure yet how to interpret the observation because I see discontinued buffers in this pipeline which still produces the fine video:
> > gst-launch --gst-debug="theoraenc:5" dshowvideosrc!ffmpegcolorspace!theoraenc!theoradec!ffmpegcolorspace!directdrawsink
> >
> > One more thing - on every discontinued packet, the theora codec is deallocated and reincarnated again by theora_enc_reset(). For performance sake it looks suspicious to me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Miron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I updated to Farsight2, 0.0.20
> > > set VER_GST=0.10.29
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.29
> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.22
> > >
> > >
> > > But I am still getting distorted video when Theora codec is used.
> > >
> > > Looks like frames between I-frames are not properly decoded.
> > >
> > > Anything I can check?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mironoz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
> > > > The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.
> > > >
> > > > Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:
> > > >
> > > > set VER_GST=0.10.25
> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
> > > > Farsight2 0.0.16
> > > >
> > > > I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Miron
> > >
> > >
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Re: Theora w/ farsight2

Marco Ballesio
Hi,

can you monitor a session with wireshark on the receiving side and
check the lost packets? When bandwidth usage increases you're more
likely to loose packets or receive them too in late.

Regards

2010/7/15 Miron Kunz <[hidden email]>:

> Hi,
>
> So I came to the conclusion that latency caused by encoder and network are destroying my Fs2/Theora video on the receiving end.
>
> With high (for ex 1/15) fps encoder drops many buffers and does not try to lower fps to adjust to CPU capabilities.
>
> Thanks,
> Mironoz
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> All my video/audio sinks on receiving end have sync=false. The sending part is handled by Farsight2 and it looks like sync=false is set there too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mironoz
>>
>> >
>> > Hi ,
>> >
>> > Use "sync=false" property with both the sinks at sending and receiving end , and then see the behaviour .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2010/7/14 Miron Kunz <[hidden email]>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > My problem seems to be related to Theora encoder.
>> >
>> > With the number of discontinued buffers increasing I am likely to get distorted image on the receiving end:
>> >
>> > 0:01:55.343750000 4492 00DF2698 DEBUG theoraenc gsttheoraenc.c:829:theora_enc_is_discontinuous:<theoraen
>> > c4> Incoming TS 0:01:50.345187500 exceeds expected value 0:01:48.955312500 by too much, marking discontinuity
>> >
>> > If I increase threshold for late/discontinued buffers - the receiving end shows video w/o artifacts.
>> >
>> > I am not sure yet how to interpret the observation because I see discontinued buffers in this pipeline which still produces the fine video:
>> > gst-launch --gst-debug="theoraenc:5" dshowvideosrc!ffmpegcolorspace!theoraenc!theoradec!ffmpegcolorspace!directdrawsink
>> >
>> > One more thing - on every discontinued packet, the theora codec is deallocated and reincarnated again by theora_enc_reset(). For performance sake it looks suspicious to me.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Miron
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I updated to Farsight2, 0.0.20
>> > > set VER_GST=0.10.29
>> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.29
>> > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.22
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But I am still getting distorted video when Theora codec is used.
>> > >
>> > > Looks like frames between I-frames are not properly decoded.
>> > >
>> > > Anything I can check?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Mironoz
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am using Theora codec w/ farsigh2 (no Telepathy) for video conferencing and I am facing distorted video on the receiving end when using camera with relatively high resolution on the sending end. Low resolution streams are decoded alright by the receiver. I ran receiver/sender on the same host so the bandwidth should not be a problem. CPU consumption was low too.
>> > > > The artifacts in the video I see most often are small squares(up to 16x16 or so pixels) with 2 white and 1 black stripes in it.
>> > > >
>> > > > Here is versions of the gstreamer/farsight2 I am using:
>> > > >
>> > > > set VER_GST=0.10.25
>> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GL=0.10.1
>> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BASE=0.10.25
>> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_GOOD=0.10.17
>> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_UGLY=0.10.13
>> > > > set VER_GST_PLUGINS_BAD=0.10.17
>> > > > Farsight2 0.0.16
>> > > >
>> > > > I read on this list about incompatibilities between certain versions of the Fs and gstreamer. I wonder if I am running in it here or it is something else.
>> > > >
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