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Use of mp3parse in a commercial product

Cedric Hombourger

Hello,

We have created a GStreamer MP3 decoder plugin from a licensed proprietary library. It currently does not support seeking. We have found that the mp3parse plugin from gst-plugins-ugly could easily fix our problem. So is there any particular reason why this plugin is in -ugly? Do you foresee any issues with its use in a commercial product given that we will fulfill our obligations for MP3 patents? I will then have the same question for aacparse - same answer?

Many thanks
-Cedric
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Re: Use of mp3parse in a commercial product

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi Cedric,
I am not a lawyer, but the reason we put the plugin into ugly was that
it could only be used with plugins we felt could have problems. That
said we have actually discussed moving it to good at certain times as
people who want to use it with a mp3 hardware decoder for instance,
would find it useful. So as far as I can tell it would not be an issue
for you to use this plugin in your product, same goes for the aacparser
one.

Christian

On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 16:02 +0100, Cedric Hombourger wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We have created a GStreamer MP3 decoder plugin from a licensed proprietary library. It currently does not support seeking. We have found that the mp3parse plugin from gst-plugins-ugly could easily fix our problem. So is there any particular reason why this plugin is in -ugly? Do you foresee any issues with its use in a commercial product given that we will fulfill our obligations for MP3 patents? I will then have the same question for aacparse - same answer?
>
> Many thanks
> -Cedric
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Re: Use of mp3parse in a commercial product

Cedric Hombourger

Thanks Christian; I'm getting my legal department to look into this.

Have a great week-end,
Bye

-Cedric

On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:

> Hi Cedric,
> I am not a lawyer, but the reason we put the plugin into ugly was that
> it could only be used with plugins we felt could have problems. That
> said we have actually discussed moving it to good at certain times as
> people who want to use it with a mp3 hardware decoder for instance,
> would find it useful. So as far as I can tell it would not be an issue
> for you to use this plugin in your product, same goes for the aacparser
> one.
>
> Christian
>
> On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 16:02 +0100, Cedric Hombourger wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have created a GStreamer MP3 decoder plugin from a licensed proprietary library. It currently does not support seeking. We have found that the mp3parse plugin from gst-plugins-ugly could easily fix our problem. So is there any particular reason why this plugin is in -ugly? Do you foresee any issues with its use in a commercial product given that we will fulfill our obligations for MP3 patents? I will then have the same question for aacparse - same answer?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> -Cedric
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Re: Use of mp3parse in a commercial product

pl bossart
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> I am not a lawyer, but the reason we put the plugin into ugly was that
> it could only be used with plugins we felt could have problems. That
> said we have actually discussed moving it to good at certain times as
> people who want to use it with a mp3 hardware decoder for instance,
> would find it useful. So as far as I can tell it would not be an issue
> for you to use this plugin in your product, same goes for the aacparser
> one.

If you are using a 'legal' decoding library you somehow already paid
for the right to use MP3-related patents. Seeking does not use any
other patents. Same if a hardware decoder is used, a license fee was
already paid to Thomson and others.
If you didn't pay any kind of license you would be in gray area even
before looking into seeking...
-Pierre

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Re: Use of mp3parse in a commercial product

Nathanael D. Noblet
On 01/28/2011 03:58 PM, pl bossart wrote:

>> I am not a lawyer, but the reason we put the plugin into ugly was that
>> it could only be used with plugins we felt could have problems. That
>> said we have actually discussed moving it to good at certain times as
>> people who want to use it with a mp3 hardware decoder for instance,
>> would find it useful. So as far as I can tell it would not be an issue
>> for you to use this plugin in your product, same goes for the aacparser
>> one.
>
> If you are using a 'legal' decoding library you somehow already paid
> for the right to use MP3-related patents. Seeking does not use any
> other patents. Same if a hardware decoder is used, a license fee was
> already paid to Thomson and others.
> If you didn't pay any kind of license you would be in gray area even
> before looking into seeking...

Hmmm got me wondering here... if I buy an IP camera that sends an MP4
stream, can I legally decode that stream with the software in gstreamer
if my product is sold as part of the camera?

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