Word of caution on using mailing lists
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To all newcomers to this mailing-list,
Whenever you reply to mails by people helping you, do *NOT* send them mails in private, but to the whole mailing-list. There's two reasons to that: * Your discussion will be lost to everybody (no longer public to the whole mailing list), * People helping you are doing it in their free time and they reply when they can. Forcing your issues to one particular individual can become very irritating. It's really easy : Just hit the 'Reply-to-all' button in your mail client. Thankyou Edward -- Edward Hervey <[hidden email]> Collabora Multimedia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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Hi Ed,
Edward Hervey wrote: > To all newcomers to this mailing-list, > > Whenever you reply to mails by people helping you, do *NOT* send them > mails in private, but to the whole mailing-list. There's two reasons to > that: > * Your discussion will be lost to everybody (no longer public to the > whole mailing list), > * People helping you are doing it in their free time and they reply > when they can. Forcing your issues to one particular individual can > become very irritating. > > It's really easy : Just hit the 'Reply-to-all' button in your mail > client. > > can't the mailing list be configured so that the "Reply-To:" header is filled with the mailing list address ? that would solve the issue for most (if not all) mailers -- Benoit Fouet Purple Labs S.A. www.purplelabs.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Benoit Fouet
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Edward Hervey wrote: >> To all newcomers to this mailing-list, >> >> Whenever you reply to mails by people helping you, do *NOT* send them >> mails in private, but to the whole mailing-list. There's two reasons to >> that: >> * Your discussion will be lost to everybody (no longer public to the >> whole mailing list), >> * People helping you are doing it in their free time and they reply >> when they can. Forcing your issues to one particular individual can >> become very irritating. >> >> It's really easy : Just hit the 'Reply-to-all' button in your mail >> client. >> >> > > can't the mailing list be configured so that the "Reply-To:" header is > filled with the mailing list address ? > that would solve the issue for most (if not all) mailers That's easier, but then you can't tell if a mail was sent directly to you _and_ the mailing list, or just the mailing list. Unless there's an option to add the mailing list to 'reply-to', instead of replacing it. -- Felipe Contreras ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Benoit Fouet > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi Ed, >> >> Edward Hervey wrote: >> >>> To all newcomers to this mailing-list, >>> >>> Whenever you reply to mails by people helping you, do *NOT* send them >>> mails in private, but to the whole mailing-list. There's two reasons to >>> that: >>> * Your discussion will be lost to everybody (no longer public to the >>> whole mailing list), >>> * People helping you are doing it in their free time and they reply >>> when they can. Forcing your issues to one particular individual can >>> become very irritating. >>> >>> It's really easy : Just hit the 'Reply-to-all' button in your mail >>> client. >>> >>> >>> >> can't the mailing list be configured so that the "Reply-To:" header is >> filled with the mailing list address ? >> that would solve the issue for most (if not all) mailers >> > > That's easier, but then you can't tell if a mail was sent directly to > you _and_ the mailing list, or just the mailing list. Unless there's > an option to add the mailing list to 'reply-to', instead of replacing > it. > I was not aware of such issues... I personnaly don't care at all to know if this is a reply to me and the mailing list or not... well, in that case, I suppose the reply to all is the only way -- Benoit Fouet Purple Labs S.A. www.purplelabs.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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Hi again,
I just modified the settings of the mailing-list, it now adds a 'Reply-To' field with the address of the mailing-list. This means that if you just hit reply, your mail will only go to the mailing-list, and if you hit 'reply-all' it will go to the ml AND the original sender. So if you were already using 'reply-all', no changes. Edward On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 12:53 +0200, Edward Hervey wrote: > To all newcomers to this mailing-list, > > Whenever you reply to mails by people helping you, do *NOT* send them > mails in private, but to the whole mailing-list. There's two reasons to > that: > * Your discussion will be lost to everybody (no longer public to the > whole mailing list), > * People helping you are doing it in their free time and they reply > when they can. Forcing your issues to one particular individual can > become very irritating. > > It's really easy : Just hit the 'Reply-to-all' button in your mail > client. > > Thankyou > > Edward ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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Edward Hervey wrote:
> Hi again, > > I just modified the settings of the mailing-list, it now adds a > 'Reply-To' field with the address of the mailing-list. > cool :) thanks -- Benoit Fouet Purple Labs S.A. www.purplelabs.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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Il giorno mer, 23/07/2008 alle 10.11 +0200, Edward Hervey ha scritto:
> Hi again, > > I just modified the settings of the mailing-list, it now adds a > 'Reply-To' field with the address of the mailing-list. > This means that if you just hit reply, your mail will only go to the > mailing-list, and if you hit 'reply-all' it will go to the ml AND the > original sender. > > So if you were already using 'reply-all', no changes. Doesn't seem so, at least for me. I'm using evolution and now both Reply To and Reply to All send the mail to the mailing list only. Not that I care too much about this thing, but I liked the previous behavior a bit more since it's the most widely used across mailing lists I'm following. Is this evolution specific? Filippo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Edward Hervey wrote:
> I just modified the settings of the mailing-list, it now adds a > 'Reply-To' field with the address of the mailing-list. > This means that if you just hit reply, your mail will only go to the > mailing-list, and if you hit 'reply-all' it will go to the ml AND the > original sender. Um, no. Turn it off. There's a reason why mailing lists don't do this. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html dave... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 09:53 -0700, David Schleef wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Edward Hervey wrote: > > I just modified the settings of the mailing-list, it now adds a > > 'Reply-To' field with the address of the mailing-list. > > This means that if you just hit reply, your mail will only go to the > > mailing-list, and if you hit 'reply-all' it will go to the ml AND the > > original sender. > > Um, no. Turn it off. > > There's a reason why mailing lists don't do this. > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html There's also a reason why mailing lists do it http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml > > > > dave... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 07:03:34PM +0200, Edward Hervey wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 09:53 -0700, David Schleef wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Edward Hervey wrote: > > > I just modified the settings of the mailing-list, it now adds a > > > 'Reply-To' field with the address of the mailing-list. > > > This means that if you just hit reply, your mail will only go to the > > > mailing-list, and if you hit 'reply-all' it will go to the ml AND the > > > original sender. > > > > Um, no. Turn it off. > > > > There's a reason why mailing lists don't do this. > > > > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html > > There's also a reason why mailing lists do it > > http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml No, seriously. Turn this shit off. If you want to leave it on, please explain to me why you want to 1) break the 'group reply' button on my mailer, and 2) break people's legitimate usage of "Reply-To:". Your "fix" breaks way more stuff than it solves. dave... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gstreamer-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel |
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