re-license and move of Fluendo mpeg ps and ts demuxers

[Zaheer Merali]

Fluendo is dual licensing the Fluendo mpeg demuxers as MPL/LGPL and is
moving them to GStreamer CVS. This should address any  licensing
issues that people may have had with the demuxers. I am going to
commit the current trunk into gst-plugins-bad not because the elements
are bad, but of course it has to go through the qualification process
if they are to move into ugly or good. We use the ts demuxer at
Flumotion in production and it is very robust so do not really want to
see any major refactoring so will be pushing for it to hit good or
ugly soon.

Zaheer

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[Bastien Nocera-2]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:01 +0100, Zaheer Merali wrote:
> Fluendo is dual licensing the Fluendo mpeg demuxers as MPL/LGPL and is
> moving them to GStreamer CVS. This should address any  licensing
> issues that people may have had with the demuxers. I am going to
> commit the current trunk into gst-plugins-bad not because the elements
> are bad, but of course it has to go through the qualification process
> if they are to move into ugly or good. We use the ts demuxer at
> Flumotion in production and it is very robust so do not really want to
> see any major refactoring so will be pushing for it to hit good or
> ugly soon.

Success! Thanks.

Can you let us know when you've moved the code, so I can move the few
bugs I have in the trac pages?

Cheers


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[Zaheer Merali]

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Bastien Nocera <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:01 +0100, Zaheer Merali wrote:
>> Fluendo is dual licensing the Fluendo mpeg demuxers as MPL/LGPL and is
>> moving them to GStreamer CVS. This should address any  licensing
>> issues that people may have had with the demuxers. I am going to
>> commit the current trunk into gst-plugins-bad not because the elements
>> are bad, but of course it has to go through the qualification process
>> if they are to move into ugly or good. We use the ts demuxer at
>> Flumotion in production and it is very robust so do not really want to
>> see any major refactoring so will be pushing for it to hit good or
>> ugly soon.
>
> Success! Thanks.
>
> Can you let us know when you've moved the code, so I can move the few
> bugs I have in the trac pages?
>
> Cheers
>

Code Moved.

Zaheer

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[Edward Hervey]

Excellent news !

  Alas... one small issue worth mentionning... The names of the plugin
and elementfactories are exactly the same are the ones from upstream...
which creates some conflicts. We should rename them ASAP.

  I created a bug report regarding that, comments welcome

   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550468

   Edward

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 17:23 +0100, Zaheer Merali wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Bastien Nocera <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:01 +0100, Zaheer Merali wrote:
> >> Fluendo is dual licensing the Fluendo mpeg demuxers as MPL/LGPL and is
> >> moving them to GStreamer CVS. This should address any  licensing
> >> issues that people may have had with the demuxers. I am going to
> >> commit the current trunk into gst-plugins-bad not because the elements
> >> are bad, but of course it has to go through the qualification process
> >> if they are to move into ugly or good. We use the ts demuxer at
> >> Flumotion in production and it is very robust so do not really want to
> >> see any major refactoring so will be pushing for it to hit good or
> >> ugly soon.
> >
> > Success! Thanks.
> >
> > Can you let us know when you've moved the code, so I can move the few
> > bugs I have in the trac pages?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
>
> Code Moved.
>
> Zaheer
>
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[Bastien Nocera-2]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 18:34 +0200, Edward Hervey wrote:
> Excellent news !
>
>   Alas... one small issue worth mentionning... The names of the plugin
> and elementfactories are exactly the same are the ones from upstream...
> which creates some conflicts. We should rename them ASAP.
>
>   I created a bug report regarding that, comments welcome
>
>    http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550468

We could kill the old plugins in gst already, and rename the new plugins
to that?


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[Edward Hervey]

Considering I'm getting crashes with the new mpegpsdemuxer I didn't have
with the legacy ones... I very much doubt that.

  There's nothing wrong with having more than one demxuer for the time
being.

  This is going to require a LOT more testing before deciding which one
is better.... at least for mpeg-ps demuxing.

    Edward


On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 17:37 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 18:34 +0200, Edward Hervey wrote:
> > Excellent news !
> >
> >   Alas... one small issue worth mentionning... The names of the plugin
> > and elementfactories are exactly the same are the ones from upstream...
> > which creates some conflicts. We should rename them ASAP.
> >
> >   I created a bug report regarding that, comments welcome
> >
> >    http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550468
>
> We could kill the old plugins in gst already, and rename the new plugins
> to that?
>
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[Tim-Philipp Müller-2]

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 17:37 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:

> We could kill the old plugins in gst already, and rename the new plugins
> to that?

Can't do that, since the behaviour of the two demuxers is different in
some aspects (pad names, media format output etc.), which might break
existing applications using the current -ugly demuxer (-ugly is supposed
to have the same stability guarantees as -good if I'm not mistaken).

We can deprecate the one in -ugly though and declare the new one the one
to use if we find it's better or more hackable.

 Cheers
  -Tim



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