[RFC] DNS and new mailing lists

[Edward Hervey]

Hi all,

  Over the past few days I've been fixing most of the DNS issues on the
GStreamer domains (thanks to Omega).

  Now (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} will all direct you to the gstreamer
website.

  We also have build.gstreamer.org which will point you to the buildbot
reporting.

  Finally, and it's been something mentionned many times, we'd like to
move away from sourceforge.net completely, for which we only use the
mailman (mailing-lists) setup. Thanks to the freedesktop team we've now
got mailing-lists on freedesktop servers....

  ... But the question remain on what naming we want.

  We have the 2 possible setups ready to be used :

  * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org

  OR

  * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org

  Comments welcome on (1) whether to switch, (2) which naming scheme to
use.

  Once we've all come to an agreement it should be trivial to:
  * Switch all members from the sf.net lists to the new mailing-lists
(unsubcribing from one, subscribing to the other).
  * Move all archives from the sf.net lists to the new mailman setup.

    Edward


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[Tim-Philipp Müller-2]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 12:34 +0100, Edward Hervey wrote:

> Over the past few days I've been fixing most of the DNS issues on the
> GStreamer domains (thanks to Omega). Now (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} will
> all direct you to the gstreamer website.

Yay!


> We also have build.gstreamer.org which will point you to the buildbot
> reporting.

Nice work!


>   Finally, and it's been something mentionned many times, we'd like to
> move away from sourceforge.net completely, for which we only use the
> mailman (mailing-lists) setup. Thanks to the freedesktop team we've now
> got mailing-lists on freedesktop servers....

Woohoo!

>   ... But the question remain on what naming we want.
>
>   We have the 2 possible setups ready to be used :
>
>   * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
>
>   OR
>
>   * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org
>
>   Comments welcome on (1) whether to switch,

Switch away from SourceForge: absolutely! The sooner the better IMHO.


> (2) which naming scheme to use.

I like and prefer the gstreamer.freedesktop.org 'identity' and think we
should keep using that for everything.

Cheers
 -Tim



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[Tim-Philipp Müller-2]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 14:08 +0000, Tim-Philipp Müller wrote:

> I like and prefer the gstreamer.freedesktop.org 'identity' and think we
> should keep using that for everything.

Which was supposed to mean that I favour this scheme:

 gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org

Cheers
 -Tim



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[Felipe Contreras]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Edward Hervey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  Over the past few days I've been fixing most of the DNS issues on the
> GStreamer domains (thanks to Omega).
>
>  Now (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} will all direct you to the gstreamer
> website.
>
>  We also have build.gstreamer.org which will point you to the buildbot
> reporting.
>
>  Finally, and it's been something mentionned many times, we'd like to
> move away from sourceforge.net completely, for which we only use the
> mailman (mailing-lists) setup. Thanks to the freedesktop team we've now
> got mailing-lists on freedesktop servers....
>
>  ... But the question remain on what naming we want.
>
>  We have the 2 possible setups ready to be used :
>
>  * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
>
>  OR
>
>  * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org
>
>  Comments welcome on (1) whether to switch, (2) which naming scheme to
> use.
>
>  Once we've all come to an agreement it should be trivial to:
>  * Switch all members from the sf.net lists to the new mailing-lists
> (unsubcribing from one, subscribing to the other).
>  * Move all archives from the sf.net lists to the new mailman setup.

Awesome! Thanks.

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[Jan Schmidt-6]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 14:16 +0000, Tim-Philipp Müller wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 14:08 +0000, Tim-Philipp Müller wrote:
>
> > I like and prefer the gstreamer.freedesktop.org 'identity' and think we
> > should keep using that for everything.
>
> Which was supposed to mean that I favour this scheme:
>
>  gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
>

This one gets my vote too.

Thanks heaps, Edward, for pushing forward on this!

J.

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[Stefan Sauer]

Edward Hervey schrieb:

> Hi all,
>
>   Over the past few days I've been fixing most of the DNS issues on the
> GStreamer domains (thanks to Omega).
>
>   Now (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} will all direct you to the gstreamer
> website.
>
>   We also have build.gstreamer.org which will point you to the buildbot
> reporting.
>
>   Finally, and it's been something mentionned many times, we'd like to
> move away from sourceforge.net completely, for which we only use the
> mailman (mailing-lists) setup. Thanks to the freedesktop team we've now
> got mailing-lists on freedesktop servers....
>
>   ... But the question remain on what naming we want.
>
>   We have the 2 possible setups ready to be used :
>
>   * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
>
>   OR
>
>   * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org
>
>   Comments welcome on (1) whether to switch, (2) which naming scheme to
> use.
>
>   Once we've all come to an agreement it should be trivial to:
>   * Switch all members from the sf.net lists to the new mailing-lists
> (unsubcribing from one, subscribing to the other).
>   * Move all archives from the sf.net lists to the new mailman setup.
>
>     Edward
>  

You rock! I don't mind that much regarding the domain for the lists. I
give my +1 for the

gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org

as well.

Stefan

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[Donny Viszneki]

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Edward Hervey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
>
>  OR
>
>  * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org

Whichever domain name you wish to use, I would recommend keeping the
"gstreamer-" prepended to the beginning because some mail software
still use the email address instead of the Full-Name SMTP header.
*Some* mail software even likes to only use the part of the address
before the '@' sign.

The domain name I would recommend using is lists.gstreamer.org in case
-- one day far far away from now -- gstreamer switches to another
mailing list provider that is not the wonderful freedesktop people. It
would make the transition more seamless because you can take the
gstreamer.org domain name with you.

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[Edward Hervey]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 14:50 -0500, Donny Viszneki wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Edward Hervey <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >  * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
> >
> >  OR
> >
> >  * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org
>
> Whichever domain name you wish to use, I would recommend keeping the
> "gstreamer-" prepended to the beginning because some mail software
> still use the email address instead of the Full-Name SMTP header.
> *Some* mail software even likes to only use the part of the address
> before the '@' sign.

  Err... they should *actually* be using the "List-id" header. I'm sorry
to say... but I'd consider that argument as not one. This is the 21st
century, if you're still using a mail reader that doesn't support
filtering on mail headers...
  And here I was thinking dropping the "[gst-devel]" subject prefix
would cause an outrage... Oh wait, is it the first time I mention
this ? :)

>
> The domain name I would recommend using is lists.gstreamer.org in case
> -- one day far far away from now -- gstreamer switches to another
> mailing list provider that is not the wonderful freedesktop people. It
> would make the transition more seamless because you can take the
> gstreamer.org domain name with you.
>

  That's a rather strong argument I'd say.

   Edward


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[Edward Hervey]

On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 17:06 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Edward Hervey <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  Over the past few days I've been fixing most of the DNS issues on the
> > GStreamer domains (thanks to Omega).
> >
> >  Now (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} will all direct you to the gstreamer
> > website.
> >
> >  We also have build.gstreamer.org which will point you to the buildbot
> > reporting.
> >
> >  Finally, and it's been something mentionned many times, we'd like to
> > move away from sourceforge.net completely, for which we only use the
> > mailman (mailing-lists) setup. Thanks to the freedesktop team we've now
> > got mailing-lists on freedesktop servers....
> >
> >  ... But the question remain on what naming we want.
> >
> >  We have the 2 possible setups ready to be used :
> >
> >  * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
> >
> >  OR
> >
> >  * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org
> >
> >  Comments welcome on (1) whether to switch, (2) which naming scheme to
> > use.
> >
> >  Once we've all come to an agreement it should be trivial to:
> >  * Switch all members from the sf.net lists to the new mailing-lists
> > (unsubcribing from one, subscribing to the other).
> >  * Move all archives from the sf.net lists to the new mailman setup.
>
> Awesome! Thanks.
>

   You're welcome. Any comments though on the domain to use ?


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[Dan Taylor-2]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Hervey [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:35 AM
> To: gstreamer-devel
> Subject: [gst-devel] [RFC] DNS and new mailing lists
>
> Hi all,
>
>   Over the past few days I've been fixing most of the DNS issues on
the
> GStreamer domains (thanks to Omega).
>
>   Now (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} will all direct you to the gstreamer
> website.
>
>   We also have build.gstreamer.org which will point you to the
buildbot
> reporting.
>
>   Finally, and it's been something mentionned many times, we'd like to
> move away from sourceforge.net completely, for which we only use the
> mailman (mailing-lists) setup. Thanks to the freedesktop team we've
now

> got mailing-lists on freedesktop servers....
>
>   ... But the question remain on what naming we want.
>
>   We have the 2 possible setups ready to be used :
>
>   * gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.freedesktop.org
>
>   OR
>
>   * {commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org
>

OR, since (www.)gstreamer.{net|org} works:

   gstreamer-{commits|devel|security|announce}@lists.gstreamer.org>



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