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Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Alexey Chernov
Hello,

a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that v4l2src
isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the source code
which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it very useful
for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would like (it
didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I decided
to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user who tried
the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the plugin very
significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms of
working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now I'm quite
sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite small and
simple to maintain.

So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-* package? I
think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact with FM
tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although it's
quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
functionality in official plugins package.

If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of addition the
plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside the
gst-plugins-* package.

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Re: Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Kapil Agrawal
The Best way you can have this plugin inside gstreamer repos is by opening  a ticket in bugzilla & attaching this as a patch.
Respective people will review  & if ok will add in gst-plugins-bad.

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:44 AM, 4ernov <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,

a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that v4l2src
isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the source code
which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it very useful
for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would like (it
didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I decided
to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user who tried
the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the plugin very
significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms of
working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now I'm quite
sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite small and
simple to maintain.

So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-* package? I
think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact with FM
tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although it's
quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
functionality in official plugins package.

If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of addition the
plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside the
gst-plugins-* package.

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$10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
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Re: Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Alexey Chernov
In reply to this post by Alexey Chernov
Kapil, thank you very much for suggestion! I'll try to do it and
hopefully these steps will help.


> The Best way you can have this plugin inside gstreamer repos is by opening
> a ticket in bugzilla & attaching this as a patch.
> Respective people will review  & if ok will add in gst-plugins-bad.
>
> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:44 AM, 4ernov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
> > interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that v4l2src
> > isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the source code
> > which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it very useful
> > for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would like (it
> > didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I decided
> > to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user who tried
> > the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the plugin very
> > significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms of
> > working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now I'm quite
> > sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite small and
> > simple to maintain.
> >
> > So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-* package? I
> > think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact with FM
> > tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although it's
> > quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
> > functionality in official plugins package.
> >
> > If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of addition the
> > plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside the
> > gst-plugins-* package.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America
> > contest
> > Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
> > $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
> > marketing
> > Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
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> >

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Re: Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Edward Hervey
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In reply to this post by Kapil Agrawal
On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:21 +0530, Kapil Agrawal wrote:
> The Best way you can have this plugin inside gstreamer repos is by
> opening  a ticket in bugzilla & attaching this as a patch.
> Respective people will review  & if ok will add in gst-plugins-bad.

  In addition, inclusion will be speeded up if you make it available as
a patch to gst-plugins-bad, even better if it comes as a git patch (i.e.
checkout gst-plugins-bad  git module and integrate your code into it
along with the proper Makefile/configure addition as git commits)

  If you share a *lot* of code with the v4l2 plugin... it would be
better to try to integrate it in gst-plugins-good with the v4l2 plugin.
But warning, the quality-levels/requirements for merging something into
-good are much higher than for -bad. If you do so, make sure you read
the following document for what is expected:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/tree/docs/random/moving-plugins

   Edward

>
> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:44 AM, 4ernov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>         Hello,
>        
>         a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
>         interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that
>         v4l2src
>         isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the
>         source code
>         which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it
>         very useful
>         for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would
>         like (it
>         didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I
>         decided
>         to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user
>         who tried
>         the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the
>         plugin very
>         significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms
>         of
>         working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now
>         I'm quite
>         sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite
>         small and
>         simple to maintain.
>        
>         So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-*
>         package? I
>         think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact
>         with FM
>         tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although
>         it's
>         quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
>         functionality in official plugins package.
>        
>         If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of
>         addition the
>         plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside
>         the
>         gst-plugins-* package.
>        
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>         America contest
>         Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in
>          U.S. and Canada
>         $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly
>         $6M in marketing
>         Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>         Ovi Store
>         http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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>
>
>
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> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kapilagrawal
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> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
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Re: Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Alexey Chernov
Thank you for these additions, Edward.

I checked if the same functionality could be added to v4l2src when just began
development and found v4l2src more complex and functionally full than plugin
needed for FM tuner. But I'll check this once again before opening a ticket.

Also, thanks for suggestion to make the patch against latest git version,
things became clearer for me.

On Monday 25 October 2010 11:20:25 you wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:21 +0530, Kapil Agrawal wrote:
> > The Best way you can have this plugin inside gstreamer repos is by
> > opening  a ticket in bugzilla & attaching this as a patch.
> > Respective people will review  & if ok will add in gst-plugins-bad.
>
>   In addition, inclusion will be speeded up if you make it available as
> a patch to gst-plugins-bad, even better if it comes as a git patch (i.e.
> checkout gst-plugins-bad  git module and integrate your code into it
> along with the proper Makefile/configure addition as git commits)
>
>   If you share a *lot* of code with the v4l2 plugin... it would be
> better to try to integrate it in gst-plugins-good with the v4l2 plugin.
> But warning, the quality-levels/requirements for merging something into
> -good are much higher than for -bad. If you do so, make sure you read
> the following document for what is expected:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/tree/docs/random/moving-plu
> gins
>
>    Edward
>
> > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:44 AM, 4ernov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >         Hello,
> >        
> >         a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
> >         interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that
> >         v4l2src
> >         isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the
> >         source code
> >         which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it
> >         very useful
> >         for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would
> >         like (it
> >         didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I
> >         decided
> >         to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
> >         http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user
> >         who tried
> >         the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the
> >         plugin very
> >         significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms
> >         of
> >         working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now
> >         I'm quite
> >         sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite
> >         small and
> >         simple to maintain.
> >        
> >         So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-*
> >         package? I
> >         think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact
> >         with FM
> >         tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although
> >         it's
> >         quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
> >         functionality in official plugins package.
> >        
> >         If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of
> >         addition the
> >         plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside
> >         the
> >         gst-plugins-* package.
> >        
> >         -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >         ------------- Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All
> >         Innovators-North America contest
> >         Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in
> >        
> >          U.S. and Canada
> >        
> >         $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly
> >         $6M in marketing
> >         Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
> >         Ovi Store
> >         http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
> >         _______________________________________________
> >         gstreamer-devel mailing list
> >         [hidden email]
> >         https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel

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Re: Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Stefan Sauer
hi Alexey,
Am 26.10.2010 20:48, schrieb Alexey Chernov:
> Thank you for these additions, Edward.
>
> I checked if the same functionality could be added to v4l2src when just began
> development and found v4l2src more complex and functionally full than plugin
> needed for FM tuner. But I'll check this once again before opening a ticket.

Edward did not meant that it should be itegrated to the v4l2src element
necessarily. It would be fine if the v4l2 plugin would get a 3rd element
(besides v4l2src and v4l2sink) if that would allow sharing more code from the
plugin.

Stefan

>
> Also, thanks for suggestion to make the patch against latest git version,
> things became clearer for me.
>
> On Monday 25 October 2010 11:20:25 you wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:21 +0530, Kapil Agrawal wrote:
>>> The Best way you can have this plugin inside gstreamer repos is by
>>> opening  a ticket in bugzilla & attaching this as a patch.
>>> Respective people will review  & if ok will add in gst-plugins-bad.
>>
>>   In addition, inclusion will be speeded up if you make it available as
>> a patch to gst-plugins-bad, even better if it comes as a git patch (i.e.
>> checkout gst-plugins-bad  git module and integrate your code into it
>> along with the proper Makefile/configure addition as git commits)
>>
>>   If you share a *lot* of code with the v4l2 plugin... it would be
>> better to try to integrate it in gst-plugins-good with the v4l2 plugin.
>> But warning, the quality-levels/requirements for merging something into
>> -good are much higher than for -bad. If you do so, make sure you read
>> the following document for what is expected:
>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/tree/docs/random/moving-plu
>> gins
>>
>>    Edward
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:44 AM, 4ernov <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>         Hello,
>>>        
>>>         a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
>>>         interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that
>>>         v4l2src
>>>         isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the
>>>         source code
>>>         which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it
>>>         very useful
>>>         for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would
>>>         like (it
>>>         didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I
>>>         decided
>>>         to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
>>>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user
>>>         who tried
>>>         the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the
>>>         plugin very
>>>         significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms
>>>         of
>>>         working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now
>>>         I'm quite
>>>         sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite
>>>         small and
>>>         simple to maintain.
>>>        
>>>         So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-*
>>>         package? I
>>>         think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact
>>>         with FM
>>>         tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although
>>>         it's
>>>         quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
>>>         functionality in official plugins package.
>>>        
>>>         If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of
>>>         addition the
>>>         plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside
>>>         the
>>>         gst-plugins-* package.
>>>        
>>>         -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>         ------------- Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All
>>>         Innovators-North America contest
>>>         Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in
>>>        
>>>          U.S. and Canada
>>>        
>>>         $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly
>>>         $6M in marketing
>>>         Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
>>>         Ovi Store
>>>         http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
>>>         _______________________________________________
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>>>         [hidden email]
>>>         https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel
>
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> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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Re: Request of including gstradiotuner plugin to gst-plugins-*

Alexey Chernov
Hi, Stefan,
yes, I've examined the code of v4l2 plugin and mine, there're some shared code
in terms of low-level work with v4l2 subsystem (i.e. my plugin shares some
functionality as it's much smaller than v4l2). So now I consider to rewrite my
plugin on top of v4l2 low-level calls (v4l2_calls.h/c to be exact) and maybe
add to v4l2 plugin code (as separate element). I can take some time but I hope
not so long.

And also the question is about complement sink element because I've got only
src one..

On Friday 29 October 2010 19:26:06 Stefan Kost wrote:

> hi Alexey,
>
> Am 26.10.2010 20:48, schrieb Alexey Chernov:
> > Thank you for these additions, Edward.
> >
> > I checked if the same functionality could be added to v4l2src when just
> > began development and found v4l2src more complex and functionally full
> > than plugin needed for FM tuner. But I'll check this once again before
> > opening a ticket.
>
> Edward did not meant that it should be itegrated to the v4l2src element
> necessarily. It would be fine if the v4l2 plugin would get a 3rd element
> (besides v4l2src and v4l2sink) if that would allow sharing more code from
> the plugin.
>
> Stefan
>
> > Also, thanks for suggestion to make the patch against latest git version,
> > things became clearer for me.
> >
> > On Monday 25 October 2010 11:20:25 you wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:21 +0530, Kapil Agrawal wrote:
> >>> The Best way you can have this plugin inside gstreamer repos is by
> >>> opening  a ticket in bugzilla & attaching this as a patch.
> >>> Respective people will review  & if ok will add in gst-plugins-bad.
> >>>
> >>   In addition, inclusion will be speeded up if you make it available as
> >>
> >> a patch to gst-plugins-bad, even better if it comes as a git patch (i.e.
> >> checkout gst-plugins-bad  git module and integrate your code into it
> >> along with the proper Makefile/configure addition as git commits)
> >>
> >>   If you share a *lot* of code with the v4l2 plugin... it would be
> >>
> >> better to try to integrate it in gst-plugins-good with the v4l2 plugin.
> >> But warning, the quality-levels/requirements for merging something into
> >> -good are much higher than for -bad. If you do so, make sure you read
> >> the following document for what is expected:
> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/tree/docs/random/moving-
> >> plu gins
> >>
> >>    Edward
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:44 AM, 4ernov <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>         Hello,
> >>>        
> >>>         a couple of months ago I asked here about GStreamer plugin for
> >>>         interacting with FM tuner. Unfortunately I've learned that
> >>>         v4l2src
> >>>         isn't fit for that purpose and a member suggested me the
> >>>         source code
> >>>         which implement some of plugin for such a case. I found it
> >>>         very useful
> >>>         for my problem but it wasn't so GStreamer-style as I would
> >>>         like (it
> >>>         didn't support GstTuner interface at all, for instance) and I
> >>>         decided
> >>>         to improve it and upload to Sourceforge here:
> >>>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstradiotuner/ Soon one user
> >>>         who tried
> >>>         the plugin reported about the problems and we improved the
> >>>         plugin very
> >>>         significantly to make it match the rules of V4L2 API in terms
> >>>         of
> >>>         working with FM tuners. After all the fixes and patches now
> >>>         I'm quite
> >>>         sure that it's stable enough. On the other side it's quite
> >>>         small and
> >>>         simple to maintain.
> >>>        
> >>>         So the question is: could it be included to gst-plugins-*
> >>>         package? I
> >>>         think many users would expect GStreamer element to interact
> >>>         with FM
> >>>         tuners, but GStreamer plugins miss such element now although
> >>>         it's
> >>>         quite simple and I see no reasons why not to provide such
> >>>         functionality in official plugins package.
> >>>        
> >>>         If it's possible I could follow the steps of procedure of
> >>>         addition the
> >>>         plugin if there's one and maintain the plugin already inside
> >>>         the
> >>>         gst-plugins-* package.
> >>>        
> >>>         ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>         -- ------------- Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All
> >>>         Innovators-North America contest
> >>>         Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in
> >>>        
> >>>          U.S. and Canada
> >>>        
> >>>         $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly
> >>>         $6M in marketing
> >>>         Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to
> >>>         Ovi Store
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> > in  U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices,
> > nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java
> > and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest
Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
$10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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